On how Aboard has changed in 2023, the value of human connection, and Rich and Paul’s willingness to be humiliated in a corporate context.

When Jim Nielsen catalogued a list of topics Rich and Paul have relegated to future podcasts, they took that as a challenge.

How do you get a user in the door—and how do you convince them to stay? On the most evergreen and thrilling of subjects: The marketing funnel!

Paul and Rich put on their quasi-historian hats (pictured above) and explore how the web became a platform for everyone’s data.

With no secret insight but remarkable aplomb, Paul and Rich dive into the OpenAI drama—and the passionate subject of corporate governance.